David Barton recently visited The Jim Bakker Show to talk about his new book The Founders Bible. I’ve been watching Barton for a long time, and I sense several new points of emphasis during his visit.
After his publisher Brad Cummings speaks, Barton comes in around the 2:00 minute mark and starts talking about the relationship between sin and history. He stresses how Paul, David, and Sampson were all used by God despite their sin. Interesting. Then he starts talking about the flaws of founding fathers and how God used them to build America. Let’s consider the immediate context in which Barton makes these statements–the age of Trump. God uses flawed men to build America. This is Court Evangelicalism 101.
The old David Barton comes back around the 4:00 mark when as he claims that 27 of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence held seminary or Bible school degrees.
By the way, Barton’s view that the founders used biblical principles in their writings without citing chapter and verse may contain a kernel of truth. Check out Daniel Dreisbach’s Reading the Bible With the Founding Fathers. Barton, of course, takes this view to an extreme. Remember, his goal is to use the past to win the culture war rather than providing his followers with a nuanced view of how the founders engaged the Bible.
Here is another short video from David Barton’s appearance on the Jim Bakker show:
Here Barton is talking about a meeting with Glenn Beck and televangelist Rick Joyner. In this clip Joyner claims that Independent Network Charismatic leader (and King Cyrus coin guy) Lance Wallnau was also present.
I have written a lot about Beck and Wallnau, but some of you may not be familiar with Joyner. He runs an organization called Morning Star Ministries. Back in 1998 he tried to get a religious property tax exemption for his private jet, several tracts of land, and his vacation home. He was also a business partner of Jim Bakker back in the PTL days and, in 2004, bought Bakker’s Heritage USA. He is part of the Independent Network Charismatic movement, a believer in Seven Mountain Dominionism, and a climate change-denier. Click here to learn more about him, compliments of Right Wing Watch;
Barton mentions that the meeting with Beck, Joyner, and Wallnau focused on “where the nation is going spiritually.” I think it fair to read this as a culture-war strategy session. Barton’s co-author Cummings was also at the meeting and he describes a vision Joyner had about the American Revolutionary War and the Civil War. God told Joyner that these events did not accomplish what they should have accomplished, especially as it relates to race relations. That sounds about right. But as Joyner’s dream came to end, he got a vision of a “Second American Revolution and Civil War” that will be “inevitable, just, and successful.”
Barton then affirms Joyner’s vision, and in doing so he says some accurate things about the failure of the founders to deliver on matters of racial equality. This is a huge step for Barton. It led me to wonder where he was going this. Where was the culture-war hook?
And then it happened. At about the 4:50 mark Barton adds an additional layer to his interpretation of Joyner’s dream. Rather than continuing with his mini-lecture on America’s failure in matters of race, he suggests that Joyner’s vision about a “Second American Revolution and Civil War” was actually about Roe v. Wade. Barton says that we should expect a Civil War “over the abortion issue.” If Roe v. Wade is overturned, California and other pro-choice states will secede from the Union and it will end in violence.
Watch the entire Bakker-Barton conversation here and here.
And if you really watch carefully, you will “learn” that:
- Jim Bakker just opened a “Prayer Mountain” in the Ozarks.
- David Barton is “honored all over the world” and is “brilliant.”
- Barton’s new book, The Founders Bible, is very heavy.
- Barton claims that The Founders Bible is his “greatest book,” a “transformational book that will last generations.”
- The Founders Bible is a “modern day version of the Geneva Bible.”
- The Founders Bible takes the “wisdom” of the founders and “mixes it with biblical perspectives” and applies to the “issues we face today.” God and Country! There really is little daylight between the teachings of the founders and God.
- Cummings took 16-hours of “masters-level church history” and never heard some of the stories Barton writes about in the The Founders Bible. (Cummings attended seminary at Fuller Theological Seminary. Fuller is a great evangelical seminary. I thus think there is a reason he never heard Barton’s stories at Fuller).
- Barton serves as a consultant for state social standards.
- If young people just read primary documents they would come around to Barton’s views and come to believe that America is a Christian nation. For Barton, these documents are frozen in time. He is opposed to the kind of historical thinking that takes change over time, context, complexity, contingency, and causation seriously.
- America is a “Christian nation,” which Barton defines as a nation in which the Bible shapes the culture. His example is the free-market system.
- Free market capitalism came from five Bible verses: 1 Timothy 5:8, 2 Thessalonians 3:10, Matthew 25, Luke 19, and Matthew 20.
- The stock market is doing well because we are using “biblical economics.”
- David Barton is humble and not a self-promoter. (Unless you challenge him on his “earned doctorate“)
- Colin Kaepernick does not know that “Black Americans” during the Civil War tried to save the American flag and received honors for it.
- All the athletes today who refuse to honor the flag are products of “recent education.”
- If you live in poverty in America today, you live better than the middle class in Europe.
- Our schools focus too much on pre-Civil War chattel slavery and not enough on present-day slavery.
- Slavery is not an issue of racism, it is a matter of economics.
- The colonies really separated from England because we wanted to end slavery. It wasn’t because of “no taxation without representation.”
- At the time of the Civil War, the majority of the American population was “not racist.”
- History is being rewritten to make the United States look bad. “They” have made us a global bad guy.
- David Barton helped Ukraine create a constitution.
- 2 Timothy 2:15, which says “Study to shew yourself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth,” applies to both the Bible and the history of the American founding.
- The reason college students like socialism so much is because of Internet memes.
- The American Revolution was a success because the patriots were thinking more biblical than the supporters of the crown.
- David Barton can predict a person’s view on the capital gains tax and climate change based on what they believe about abortion.
- Trump has done “more things for righteousness” than all the presidents of David Barton’s lifetime combined.
- It is “pathetic” that only half of evangelical pastors support Donald Trump.
- The Founders Bible is the “greatest research tool of all time.”
- Liberals hate the Bible.
- People should go to church armed with guns because Christianity is under threat in America. It is the only way to establish “order” in the country.