In an expletive-laced phone call with House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy while the Capitol was under attack, then-President Donald Trump said the rioters cared more about the election results than McCarthy did.”
Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are,” Trump said, according to lawmakers who were briefed on the call afterward by McCarthy.
McCarthy insisted that the rioters were Trump’s supporters and begged Trump to call them off.
Trump’s comment set off what Republican lawmakers familiar with the call described as a shouting match between the two men. A furious McCarthy told the President the rioters were breaking into his office through the windows, and asked Trump, “Who the f–k do you think you are talking to?” according to a Republican lawmaker familiar with the call.
The newly revealed details of the call, described to CNN by multiple Republicans briefed on it, provide critical insight into the President’s state of mind as rioters were overrunning the Capitol. The existence of the call and some of its details have been previously reported and discussed publicly by McCarthy.
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Meanwhile, Alabama Senator Tommy Tuberville claims that Trump called him during the insurrection. The president was fully aware of what was going on at the U.S. Capitol. According to Tuberville, Trump knew that police had evacuated Vice President Mike Pence from the Senate chamber. How did Trump know this? Tuberville told him. (We also know that Pence’s security detail was carrying the so-called “nuclear football.” as they fled the scene).
The Tuberville call began “shortly after 2pm.” At 2:24pm Trump tweeted: “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and Constitution.”
This is really getting ironic. The words of Tommy Tuberville, a strong Trump supporter who refused to cast a vote to certify the results of the Electoral College, is now a key piece of evidence in the House’s impeachment case against the former president. Today Trump’s defense attorneys challenged Tuberville’s claims about the timing of the phone call, but Tuberville stood-by his account. People in Alabama know that Tuberville has a big mouth. A local news source tells the senator to “just keep talking.”
USA TODAY just published an editorial titled, “Convict Donald Trump and banish the 45th president from American democracy.” Agreed.