The Liberty University Student Body Calls Out Falwell Jr.

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Senator Bernie Sanders Speaks At Liberty University Convocation

Here is a statement from a movement on the Liberty University campus (and I assume among the Liberty University alumni) called Liberty United Against Trump.

In the months since Jerry Falwell Jr. endorsed him, Donald Trump has been inexorably associated with Liberty University. We are Liberty students who are disappointed with President Falwell’s endorsement and are tired of being associated with one of the worst presidential candidates in American history. Donald Trump does not represent our values and we want nothing to do with him.

A majority of Liberty students, faculty, and staff feel as we do. Donald Trump received a pitiful 90 votes from Liberty students in Virginia’s primary election, a colossal rejection of his campaign. Nevertheless, President Falwell eagerly uses his national platform to advocate for Donald Trump. While he occasionally clarifies that supporting Trump is not the official position of Liberty University, he knows it is his title of president of the largest Christian university in the world that gives him political credentials.

Associating any politician with Christianity is damaging to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. But Donald Trump is not just any politician. He has made his name by maligning others and bragging about his sins. Not only is Donald Trump a bad candidate for president, he is actively promoting the very things that we as Christians ought to oppose.

A recently uncovered tape revealed his comments bragging about sexually assaulting women. Any faculty or staff member at Liberty would be terminated for such comments, and yet when Donald Trump makes them, President Falwell rushes eagerly to his defense – taking the name “Liberty University” with him. “We’re all sinners,” Falwell told the media, as if sexual assault is a shoulder-shrugging issue rather than an atrocity which plagues college campuses across America, including our own.

It is not enough to criticize these kinds of comments. We must make clear to the world that while everyone is a sinner and everyone can be forgiven, a man who constantly and proudly speaks evil does not deserve our support for the nation’s highest office.

Jesus tells a story in the Bible about a man who tries to remove a speck of dust from his brother’s eye, while he has a log stuck in his own. “You hypocrite,” Jesus says, “first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.”

We Liberty students are often told to support Donald Trump because the other leading candidate is a bad option. Perhaps this is true. But the only candidate who is directly associated with Liberty University is Donald Trump.

Because our president has led the world to believe that Liberty University supports Donald Trump, we students must take it upon ourselves to make clear that Donald Trump is absolutely opposed to what we believe, and does not have our support.

We are not proclaiming our opposition to Donald Trump out of bitterness, but out of a desire to regain the integrity of our school. While our president Jerry Falwell Jr. tours the country championing the log in his eye, we want the world to know how many students oppose him. We don’t want to champion Donald Trump; we want only to be champions for Christ.

Members of the Liberty University family are asked to sign this statement.

102 thoughts on “The Liberty University Student Body Calls Out Falwell Jr.

  1. Liberty is not the same as it was in the 70s and neither are we. Students dress different, guys can have long hair among other things. But it is still a place where 100s come forward and get saved or re-commit their lives to Jesus. I was surprised when Jerry Jr first supported Trump early when he could have supported Cruz. But between Donal Trump and his questionable character, but commitment to conservative Justices and policies, to be against Trump is to support Hillary and abandon any hope for millions of unborn children not to mention her effects on our economy. I agree with one thing. We are electing a president, not a pastor. I prefer a candidate with a higher moral history, but we have only 2 choices. Hillary or Donald. A no vote by any conservative is a yes vote for Hillary. I don’t like it, but it’s our choice.

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  2. Certainly, as soon as anyone also equally investigates and if appropriate prosecutes Colin Powell and Condi Rice for also using private emails servers during their SoS service, or Dick Cheney for deleting emails when he was VP.

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  3. Thank you to the students of Liberty United Against Trump.for this statement. It’s distressing and disappointing enough that anyone can perpetuate the double standard of demanding “forgiveness” for one person’s repeated poor behavior and at the same time insisting on condemnation for everyone else; it’s even more so when an official can appear to speak for an entire body of people who do not agree with him when doing so. Qui tacit consentre videteur.

    You are a credit to your savior Yeshua son of Yahweh; may your good will and fair mindedness come back to reward you threefold (wish goes out)

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  4. If Republicans are arguing for the Trump because they’re afraid that Hilary Supreme Court Justice nominations will mean abortion and same sex marriage will be legal in all states. If you’re more concerned about those two issues than – challenging the current increase of blacks being killed by cops; continuing to allow poorer Americans access to affordable health care; the possibility of debt-free college education for all; increase in minimum wage; equal pay for equal work – your priorities are negatively skewed. Step out of your myopia.

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  5. If Republicans are arguing for the Trump because they’re afraid that Hilary Supreme Court Justice nominations will mean abortion and same sex marriage will be legal in all states. If you’re more concerned about those two issues than – challenging the current increase of blacks being killed by cops; continuing to allow poorer Americans access to affordable health care; the possibility of debt-free college education for all; increase in minimum wage; equal pay for equal work – your priorities are negatively skewed. Step out of your myopia.

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  6. No, not especially. I distrust her.

    My point was that it was inappropriate for Falwell to do a ‘personal’ endorsement. I don’t think there really is such a thing for such a high-profile head of a very well-known Christian university. The practical reality is that, regardless of his specific qualifiers, he represented Liberty in way that is not accurate to the wider Liberty student body. He should have made no endorsement. I also agree with the Liberty students that Donald Trump embodies the opposite of Christian values on almost every measure. He does not deserve our support and is a far greater threat than HRC to the world, not only the US.

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  7. The real issue isn’t is Trump a candidate we as Christians can endorse but rather do we have another alternative. If we are looking at this from a secular mindset of stacking our sins in one pile and our good works in another ( not something I recommend ) do you really think that Mrs Clinton out shines Trump ? She is worse in almost every way . When I compare the two Trump looks like a missionary in Calcutta who works with children dying of AIDS and leorosy. Donald Trump does not represent my alma mater. He is the worst candidate the Republican Party has nominated in my life time and against Hillary he by far the superior candidate both morally and politically.

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  8. This is a big bunch of bull. Only 37 Liberty students, approx. .03 %, voted democratic in the last primary, and only THREE of them voted for Hillary Clinton. I can tell you as a current Liberty University student and three time LU graduate that the majority of our students support Jerry Falwell Jr.. A majority of our students (like myself) will vote for Donald Trump. The majority of the students at the world’s largest Christian university are not going to vote for a pro abort candidate like Hillary Clinton or Gary Johnson.
    – Michael Schmidt
    D. Min. Candidate in Pastoral Counseling
    2017

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  9. “7 Requests from a Right-Wing Gen-Xer:
    Why Boomers are Having Trouble Convincing X-ers to Vote for Trump”

    Conservative Baby Boomers are going nuts, trying to figure out how to push people my age into the voting booth for Trump. As more and more embarrassing news emerges, Gen-X support continues to wane, and this tension seems to be growing exponentially.

    The older generation is angry that the younger generation is drawing a line in the sand. “Don’t you get it?” they ask us. “Don’t you see what terrible things could happen if you let Hillary win this election?”

    But as I’m watching my generation respond to these appeals, I’m noticing that anger isn’t persuading. Younger conservatives just aren’t buying it.

    For a couple of days, I’ve been thinking about why my generation is disengaging with the GOP during election 2016. So tonight, I decided to consolidate a few of my thoughts into seven points that I hope will be helpful to the Republican Party as a whole.

    I certainly don’t think my opinion has the power to change the outcome of this election. However, I do think that if conservatives are ever going to work as one body to help America recover from this present madness, some of these issues must be addressed. We have to stop ignoring the elephant in the room.

    As my Gen-X friend, Catherine Reynolds, noted, this election is decidedly Boomer vs. Boomer. People my age look at this race and find the same two extremes running for office that have haunted us all our lives. Hillary represents the Woodstock-era snide immaturity and ingratitude that left cynicism’s stain on our nation, and Trump represents the thirst for money and indulgence that left so many of my peers ignored as children.

    Gen-Xers have grown up in the shadow of these two mammoth forces, and though the Boomers have always had a way of bullying through culture with very little regard for what was before or after them, maybe it’s time for a real conversation to take place between our two generations. Because no matter what I write in this essay, no matter what I attempt to persuade anybody to do in November, a huge section of X-voters have decided the Right has gone too far this time. They aren’t budging. They aren’t conforming. And as angry as the Boomers are about this, maybe instead of just pushing this time, it would be better for all of us to slow down and have a discussion about why the disconnect exists.

    1. I know this is hard to hear, but please understand that evangelical leaders no longer have the cultural clout to persuade Gen-Xers to make political decisions.

    I realize that “power preachers” used to have this sort of leverage in American society; but for people of my generation and younger, we simply don’t trust the right-wing religious establishment any more. Before you assume that we are just trying to be rebellious about this, no, we aren’t hippies or punks. There’s more to it than that.

    Gen-X grew up with Focus on the Family, and we remember believing that the Christian life could be relatively black and white. (To be honest, we miss believing that sometimes.) But over twenty, thirty, forty years, we also saw one disaster after another emerge from the conservative right. This happened so often and with such severity, it finally affected our trust permanently.

    I was 16 in 1988 when right-wing political preacher Jimmy Swaggart was first caught with a prostitute. (I say “first,” because this happened again a few years later.) In 1989, it was Jim Bakker hitting the skids. We watched Newt Gingrich lambast Clinton for his affair, then watched Gingrich exposed for his own. We watched Rush Limbaugh snuggled in to the conservative religious right while making coarse, demeaning sexual jokes. We listened to him spew rude insults to the indulgent left while living secretly hooked on drugs. We saw Ted Haggard, President of the National Association of Evangelicals, advocate for right wing policies before getting caught in his gay sex scandal. John Ensign, the Christian Coalition darling, taught the sanctity of marriage while having an affair. Jim West advocated against gay rights while before being caught in a gay chat room. Lou Beres of the Oregon Christian Coalition molested little girls. In 2006, Mark Foley, rated highly by the Christian Coalition, was caught sending sexual emails and texts to male pages.

    Josh Duggar, former executive director of the Family Research Council Action team, was convicted for molesting five little girls. Doug Phillips of the conservative group Vision Forum took advantage of a young woman. Bill Gothard used his power to hurt scores of young women. And on. And on. And on.

    I’m not including every instance that I remember; this is just a smattering of how Gen-Xers have experienced the religious right. In fact, if I were to include disasters that took place in the microcosm of my churches and evangelical organizations, among people I knew and trusted, I could add so much more to the list. If this had happened once or twice, it wouldn’t have mattered much. We would have considered those stories outliers. But over time, this moral duplicity began to define right-wing fervor for us. Now when we see someone crusading hard for legislated morality, we think to ourselves, “I wonder what he’s doing in private?”

    It’s not that Gen-Xers are ungracious with sin. We have made mistakes. We know everyone does. It’s just that Boomer Conservatives tend to appeal to a moral superiority that just doesn’t exist in our experience. In fact, some of the most disturbing, perverse, abusive stories we have heard over and again come from the right.

    So when you now ask us to vote for a man who has used women terribly all his life, who has repeatedly bragged about living in an exploitative sexuality, it feels like a moral infection that we have tried to ignore for decades has crept closer and closer to us, and suddenly you are asking us to inject it into our own bloodstreams. When we see Jerry Fallwell Jr. try to convince us that Trump is a good man, it doesn’t feel like he is giving spiritual counsel. It feels like he is delusional.

    It’s so important for you to realize that the Gen-Xers never had the world you had. We didn’t have I Love Lucy or Father Knows Best as television standards; we had Three’s Company. Our culture has always been ugly, disjointed, perverted, and broken. We don’t have your core memories to convince us that the world will be alright again if we can just get a conservative in office, because conservatives have disappointed us as long as we can remember.

    And before you flip out, that doesn’t mean we are liberal. We aren’t liberal. (We know how your generation tends to hear a little bit of information and immediately start sorting people into boxes of good guys and bad guys. Please don’t do that right now.)

    A lot of Gen-Xers are conservatives. We are just conservatives who aren’t convinced that sticking any old right-wing guy in the Oval Office is going to remedy what’s broken about America.
    2. We need you to stop trying to scare us into action.

    For years now, Boomers have been forwarding us internet links from crazy, right-wing propaganda sites. These have had scary headlines with reactive, end-of-the-world predictions. When we click on them, the side bars are full of advertisements for bulk food and gas masks.

    We’ve tried to be fair and read this stuff, but when we’ve taken time to follow up on the research and check the facts, we’ve been burned. So much of this information hasn’t been legitimate, or it’s been distorted.

    You’ve cried wolf until we are numb. You’ve stretched the truth. You’ve exaggerated. And we’re tired of being associated with and manipulated by emotional reactivity and fear mongering.

    We’ve heard you accuse the left of lying so many times, and we know they do. Of course they lie. We don’t believe what the progressives tell us. But they aren’t the only ones who have lost cred. The right hasn’t always been honest or reliable, either. And in the past decade, our tendency to distort has only grown deeper.

    In all of this right-wing reactivity, our trust has been broken, and it’s going to take some work for you to build that back. When you come to us panicked now, we know that instead of just believing you, we have to do our own work finding out what’s legitimate.
    3. We don’t mind our faith influencing politics, but we don’t want politics determining our faith.

    At present, there’s a big gap in how the Bible is applied to political culture. Conservative Boomers have always picked-and-chosen hot topics from Scripture to integrate into government, but lately the sin-scale doesn’t adjust issue-by-issue but candidate-by-candidate. If a right-wing politician commits a foul deed, we tend overlook it while nailing a left-winger for the same exact wrong done.

    When we cry, “This is wrong!” the only explanation we get is a tu quoque. Finger pointing. “The liberals did this, too!” It feels like the buck stops nowhere.

    Gen-Xers understand that the world isn’t perfect and that we will never have a perfect moral candidate. But we need you to respect our intelligence enough to admit the double standard when there is one. Just tell us that it disgusts you more when liberals do bad things than when conservatives do them.

    Or better yet, admit to us straightforwardly that Trump is an abusive buffoon, but that you think it’s better to have an abusive buffoon in office than a corrupt, globalist snake. Then explain why.

    I’m not being sarcastic here. We might actually be more okay with that argument than you think we will be. But what you can absolutely bank on is that we will recoil when you come at us with rhetoric suggesting that your favorite candidate is “born again,” or that he’s a good leader, or that he is a good father. We know you are making things up when you try to tell us this stuff. You push us away with these arguments; you don’t draw us in.

    GenXers don’t have to have a pristine candidate, but we do need to be able to respect what we are being told. And if you lie to us, you’re going to lose us.
    4. You’re going to have to actually do something about abortion instead of using this issue to win votes then growing passive about it once you get in office.

    Roe v. Wade was passed the year after I was born. When it passed, six of the nine justices on the Court were appointed by Republicans. Since then, we have had six terms, 24 years, of Republican Presidencies. Over those same years, Republican-appointed justices have outnumbered Democrat-appointed justices. And yet, Roe v. Wade hasn’t budged.

    Why? Why do we keep seeing politicians campaign on abortion then never touch it after election day?

    The thought of Hillary repealing the Hyde Amendment is horrific, and this needs to be stopped. Abortion is the single greatest shame of American history, and we do not need to be spending federal funds to kill more babies.

    But my generation hasn’t seen legislation do a single thing to prevent the slaughter of innocent children. If you want us to believe that this problem can be remedied by legislation, the minute you get in office, we want you dealing with it. And we want you working on it until you leave.

    5. Please. Stop trying to insult us into agreement.

    Over and again during this election, you have come to us and said, “Supreme Court” as if we had no idea those vacancies were coming up or how serious they could be. Guys. We’re not stupid. We understand the gravity of this election. We get that a bad Court could take our wounded nation down.

    We also know that some of the most harmful legislation to the religious right was written by our beloved Reagan’s appointees to the Supreme Court, and that Donald Trump is no Ronald Reagan.

    Like you, we hope Trump would provide better nominees than HRC would. She’s terrible. She’s corrupt. We want nothing to do with her. But Trump is a narcissist. He’s unstable. He’s a populist who says what voters want to hear. This is the guy who tweets angry attacks about porn videos at 4:30 AM because he has zero self control. And even though we know how badly you want him to be able to make America great again, it’s understandable that we are a little nervous about him.

    Just admit that Trump is scary, too, and maybe we will come on over into the conversation. Maybe we will even end up voting like you vote. But as long as you treat us like we are naive when we are simply admitting that neither emperor is wearing any clothes–as long as you act like we are your enemies because of healthy skepticism–as long as you berate us us with reductionist, condescending, dismissive talking points or threats, we will lean the other direction.

    And BTW, these one-word insults hit us all the time. You come to us and say, “Benghazi.” “Abortion.” “2nd Amendment.” You cast these words at us with a shrill nervousness, as if we didn’t know the major issues of our time existed.

    But my generation lives on the internet, and most of us have done quite a bit of quiet research about these issues. We don’t just watch 15-second blips on Fox News; we click on all sorts of websites looking for background, theories, and answers.

    So when you come to us with single-word appeals, expecting those to knock down walls all by themselves, they don’t. They can even make you seem a little silly to us.

    If you want to convince a Gen-Xer, calmly unpack each issue with us. Don’t react. Show us that YOU have done YOUR research. Explain what you have learned about the Supreme Court, its justices, and its past decisions. Show us that you know who each candidate wants to nominate, and give us your calm opinions on why you think these candidates would be good or bad. This is how you earn the respect of a generation with the internet at its fingertips.
    6. Please stop telling us that God needs our votes “or else.”

    This is an insult to God and His sovereign power.

    Yes, we know about globalism and how dangerous it is. Yes, we know about Clinton’s ties to all that. No, we don’t want her to be our President. Yes, we know that there are terrorists at our borders who hate Christians. Yes, we understand that persecution is likely to come. But as bad as this situation is, we are tired of living in constant fear.

    See, Gen-Xers grew up choking in fear. When we were kids, we watched The Day After and worried about nuclear attack. We watched AIDS creep across the nation. We were suffocated in talk about global warming, acid rain, a collapsing economy. We’ve never thought the future would be bright–we’ve been scared as long as we can remember, and we are worn out on constant panic.

    And now that stuff is hitting the fan, we are ready to live by faith. Whatever you ask us to do, ask us to move in trust. If you want to connect God to our politics, ask us to do hard, good things for him–not run around in terror on his behalf.
    7. Understand your context.

    Please, go back and do a little research about the formation of the Christian Coalition in 1989. Look into how corrupt it became and why.

    Sometimes it seems like conservative Baby Boomers operate without understanding the impact this whole underground movement has made on them and their defaults. And by asking you to learn about these things, we aren’t saying you need to change your beliefs. We just want you to orient your beliefs in the context of political/religious history so that our discussions might be a little more productive.

    – – –

    Well, there you go. Seven suggestions for persuading a Gen-Xer.

    Hopefully these points will bridge some of the barriers you Boomers are encountering while trying to convince us. I can tell you are exhausting yourselves, trying to motivate us–but the harder you push, the more we pull away.

    Please know that we are willing to work with you. We might even be willing to work with you in 2016. We aren’t crazy, socialist, left-wing radicals. We aren’t naïve. We aren’t too idealistic to get our hands dirty.

    But we do need you to speak honestly to us. We need you to value integrity. If we are going to join together to make ugly choices for the greater good, lets call a spade a spade while we do that.

    X-ers shoot straight, see. That’s how we roll.

    And if we are going to do this as a team, we need you to lay aside the old, withered shell of the religious right and help us step forward into something better. Because even though we’ve grown up in the Boomer shadow, it’s our America, too.

    http://www.thistleandtoad.com/wwwthistleandtoadcom/writings/2016/10/14/seven-requests-from-a-right-wing-gen-xer-why-boomers-are-having-trouble-convincing-x-ers-to-vote-for-trump

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  10. Visiting Virginia has been very enlightening. After visiting the D-Day memorial and realizing how many decent human beings died (many of the same age as students at Liberty University) in the fight for liberty and the right to pursue ones own happiness. I find the interest of Christian conservatives in electing a person whose only appeal to them is that he might appoint a conservative Supreme Court justice to be shallow. We do not have a theocracy like Iran.

    I do not feel gay marriage represents the crisis that your dean (and perhaps some students) feel our country is in. I feel on some level it is merely the pursuit of individual happiness a tenet that our country was founded upon. I believe they were the words of a fairly famous Virginian (visit Poplar Forest).

    My humble opinion.

    PS: Nice year round ski run😎
    M. Grossman Philadelphia

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  11. Hi there Peggy, I took the primary point of this article as not to say which candidate is “better” but to comment on the appropriateness of Jerry Falwell Jr.’s actions.
    There are likely members of the Liberty student body who may agree with you that Trump is better than HIllary, but their point nonetheless is that it is inappropriate for a President of an educational institution to publicly suggest that the entire student body and faculty are politically aligned with Trump OR Hillary, when in fact it is not true.

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  12. News flash, yelling into a mic that you’re going to make America great again doesn’t magically make it happen.
    If I’m going to entrust my car to someone, I’m going to AT LEAST choose someone who has driven before. Someone not prone to road rage. Or someone who read the manual. Or knows how to form complete sentences.

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  13. Did you know that abortion rates actually go down when a pro-choice candidate is in office?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_statistics_in_the_United_States

    Abortions are at their lowest now since 1974 the year after Roe V Wade was passed. Abortions had been increasing since 1970, before RvW, and they peaked at 1984. Theyve been going down since then.

    Do you want to really reduce abortions?
    Invest in education and economic equality for people who are less fortunate. Maybe they don’t deserve it. Maybe they are lazy. But the highest indicator for abortions is low education and poverty.

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  14. I wonder why you all are speaking so disparaging of Donald Trump for his shortcomings…Clearly, you all should not be going TO any Facility that preaches Jesus will forgive your sins….Obviously , you have no need of forgiveness …Never had sin in your life , therefore, You had no need for the Crusifacation of JESUS for sin…Why are you all there? You are doing the devils work for your Holier than Thou “No one who has ever SINNED are worthy of our Indorsement…SHAME

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  15. I am so tired of Christians, withholding malice against Sec Clinton,whatever she has done is in the past is under the blood.What has happened with forgiveness? Are all of the wrong she has done been tried by the gov. and found guilty,she’s not in prison,the choice is yours to vote for whom ever,stop all of this against this woman.I agree with the students,your president is wrong.

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  16. I don’t know who said it but I’ve said it myself more than once… That’s my opinion and you’re entitled to it.

    Humility is a virtue. I find it disconcerting to see even only a part of Liberty University student body publicly challenging it’s president. I wonder if those quotes calling out unquote Mr. Falwell Jr took the time to speak with him personally on the matter before going public. Since they’ve gone public I Mr. Falwell Jr should call them into his office for a discussion. If he does I think these protesters should go in humility to make their case to him personally. Perhaps then some reconciliation of their differences could be achieved.

    Can it be that even Christians today I have lost the desire to lead lives in quietness and peace ?

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  17. Since when did identification as a dissident of one candidate imply that his/her *primary* opponent automatically gained a supporter? It is quite possible, contrary to popular belief, to vote for someone other than Donald Trump OR Hillary Clinton. This myopic and narrow vision of a “this or that ONLY” election is what will ultimately lead to the destruction of democracy in the United States.

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  18. Frankly, I do not care what or if any religion these folks practice. It is wrong for a president of a college to be speaking for students and faculty on political matters or even to let the perception he is speaking for them persist. I am pleased to see these students and faculty are learning what a university is about – to practice thinking for themselves. Something is right there and it is the students who are speaking out.

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  19. If it was you – you would be serving 3 years in prison, why isn’t Hillary ….

    Title 18. Section 2071.

    “(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

    (b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.”

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  20. I’m curious why you would only rely on two issues for who should be President of the United States of America. So one person who could potentially lead us to war over gay marriage and abortion. That’s extremely selective of you.

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  21. Trump has a very long history of stiffing his suppliers. His campaign hats were made in China, as are most of the items in his clothing collection. He doesnt care about creating jobs in the US; if he did, would he be conducting his business this way?

    Face it: the man is a shyster, a PT Barnum gleefully leading all of you to see the amazing, incredible Egress, a once-in-a-lifetime experience for one and all of all ages. His conduct over the past few days brandishes that he simply is not emotionally capable of handling the job — and yet you want to give it to him because you actually believe the tripe he’s dolling out?

    If nothing else, this election cycle has proven how amazingly underinformed most American voters truly are.

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  22. I guess when I think of Hillary Clinton, I’m disinclined to think that she will lead us to ethic genocide; that she will demand gold-plated toilets on air force one; that she ONLY consider cronies, and not professionals as appointees; that she will seek to jail political appointments without due process; that she will use a mob of goon followers to intimidate judges, or even lynch them, to avoid unfavorable judicial reviews. And finally as a veteran, I just can’t see Hillary Clinton removing the ENTIRE upper layer of military leadership–people who have come up through the ranks and thus possess a mastery of strategic thinking and leadership skills. I cannot see her getting riled up by some commenters or comedians jab and retaliate with our nuclear arsenal leading to millions upon millions of death because feelings were hurt.

    I simply cannot say the same about Donald Trump. I frankly thank you have done a very poor job at assessing the relative harm of either candidates.

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  23. I am a Born Again Christian. I do not agree with Donald Trumps past but if you agree with Hillary, you need to do some deep thinking. Think about the supreme court justice. She is liberal candidate. If you stay home, that will be a mistake.

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  24. In all fairness you do not have any proof whatsoever. Falwell Jr. (who has blocked me from his Twitter account because of my posts disagreeing with him on Trump) is a UVA law grad who personally has more than one successful business and owns several very profitable properties and really doesn’t need the money. The university itself is one of the best funded in the country and is close to completing a 5 year, $500 million campus upgrade/expansion. They don’t really need Trump’s money.

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  25. There is much wisdom in this post. Liberty is no doubt conservative from it’s chancellor to staff. faculty and most students. However no one is required to sign a voter ID card. In fact, during the VA primary Trump got a whopping 90 votes (6%) from the precinct that is Liberty University. I expect there will be a large 3rd party vote from the students in the general. While most evangelicals, young or old, are conservatives, the younger see the problem of tying the political to the religious. Too often people look at evangelical (as opposed to mainline) church and see them as an adjunct to the GOP. This is not healthy, especially for the church.

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  26. Not voting for Trump doesn’t necessarily mean a vote fro Clinton. I cannot vote for either because they both lack any modicum of character. I would hazard to say that’s the case of most of the those LU students note voting for Trump for the stated reasons.

    I will be voting for Evan McMullen, a serious individual, high character and experienced.

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  27. I’m appalled that you take these students and faculty members statement as an endorsement for any candidate. Plainly they are standing up for the teachings of Christ and the writings of the apostles inspired by the Holy Spirit. They have not endorsed anyone! They have simply and plainly stated the values exposed by Donald Trump are not their values and that they are being misrepresented by their president.

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  28. Speaking as one who was raised in foster care, I trust you’re doing your part to make orphanages and foster homes a thing of the past?

    Oh. Wait. Of course you arent. Folks like you really dont care that much about the child once it’s born. You’d cut its funding for health services and education and a whole myriad of supports because, you know, by and large that’s what conservatives do. Well, let me know when you’re ready to step up and help all these moms who have to make this incredibly difficult decision.

    I wont hold my breath waiting. Blue just is not my colour.

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  29. Wanda, please describe in detail how two men marrying or two women marrying has any effect on your life, livelihood, your religion or your soul’s eternal well-being. We’ll wait….

    [Theme from jeopardy plays in the background]

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  30. Oh dear god. Ua know, here in Canada, we’ve had s/s marriage for over a decade, and by and large it’s a non-issue, even with our own evangelicals. Why you folks persist in making it one just amazes me. And before you start spouting chapter and verse, let me just ask you if you believe, as the Good Book says, that a man has the right to murder his bride in their wedding bed if she’s not a virgin. Or that recalcitrant children should be put to death: that’s in there twice, by the way. Somehow, the God I know has no problem with love between two people. Funny how those made in His image continue to.

    As for Bill Clinton’s reputation… okay, I’ll bite. You REALLY want someone with TRUMP’s rep in the White House? SERIOUSLY???

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  31. There are other people running and everyone has a right to a write in, which is not a waste it is a voice. This is simply saying that we are not going to blindly follow someone because of their position and that we can make our own intelligent decision and vote by and not against our conscience. Plus, there’s not even a democratic student association on campus

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  32. Unfortunately the president isn’t a good reflection of the university but that’s what the public sees. There’s a lot of really great stuff going on here. For starters take a look at LUserve and LUsendnow. It’s a very respectable place!

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  33. There are other people running and everyone has a right to a write in. This is not saying we support a certain candidate, but that our president does not speak for us. The issue is we are held accountable to our decisions and cannot vote against our conscience. Third party or write in is not a waste, it is a voice

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  34. There are other people running, not just two. Also, everyone has a right to a write in, which is not a waste. The issue this is addressing is that the president does not dictate us like the world thinks. We are capable of making our own intelligent decisions. This was made by people who cannot bring themselves to vote against their conscience because we are held accountable to our decisions and the people we follow.

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  35. As an ethics-focused Secular Humanist & atheist, I am relieved- and encouraged to hear from clear-eyed, moral and humble Christians…who speak up when their religious institutions have strayed so far from the tenants of their faith.

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  36. This is not to support Hilary. There are other people running and everyone has the right to a write in. This is simply stating that we are not going to blindly follow someones endorsement like the world thinks we do thanks to his strongly voiced opinions. This is to separate the student body’s ability to think for ourselves and make our own intelligent conscience decision. To be honest I haven’t really seen any Hilary supporters on campus and we don’t even have a democratic student association on campus

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  37. Tina…a shame you either didn’t learn to read – or worse, refuse to comprehend the printed word.
    They aren’t endorsing Clinton – they are taking a moral stand against Trump.

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  38. Michael – your demagogue has NO plans – or intentions…or ability… – to make America “Great Again”, because our nation never stopped being Great when we followed the guiding light of our Constitution – starting with the Preamble’s acknowledgement of its abiliry to evolve & mature in the endless quest “…to form a MORE-PERFECT Union,…”

    “…establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, pronote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity…”

    NO crass, ignorant, belligerent, self-aggrandizing strong-men con-artists needed.

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  39. All of you Anti-Trumpers are nothing more than hypocrites when you spout out that lame response to Bill’s indiscretions while in the Whitehouse “Bill’s not running for President, she is!” . FYI, Hillary Clinton’s political career is based solely on the career of her husband Bill Clinton. Hillary’s enabling, covering up, and terrorizing the victims of Bill in order to keep their political aspirations afloat. Hillary is just as culpable as Bill was. She’s certainly no better, she’s enabled the man his entire life. I get that DJT is not the greatest choice, honestly neither are. In order to bring our government back to place where the people are in charge and their voices will be heard it’s going to take a hard nosed “git’r done” kind of person. Hillary’s spent over 30 years screwing around in politics and near as I can tell all she’s done is amassed millions, much like the other 534 assholes in DC. The choice ain’t pretty people, but it’s the right choice for now.

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  40. No, I haven’t seen any Clinton supporters here. There’s not even a democratic student group on campus. There are third party candidates running as well as the right to a write in. Which, no, is not a wasted vote. So I think many will be doing that.

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  41. Actually most of us aren’t a fan. We’ll be respectful because that’s what nice christians do and he’s what we’ve got. But most of the time we just ignore the stupid. We’re capable of living our own lives. Plus it’s the professors, who care, know the Bible, and are intelligent, that really pour into our lives. We really don’t see or hear from the president that often so we’re not just blindly following…as you can see from this article/statement/movement. There’s a lot of really good stuff going on at Liberty. I encourage you to see the good and pass along the word that the stuff you see in the media is usually to rock the boat and the students are capable of thinking for themselves. It’s exhausting to constantly do damage control and defend ourselves. Take a look at LUsendnow and LUserve just to name a couple of things we do. It’s a pretty great place 🙂

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  42. First, let me say that Liberty University is a fantastic school! I received a fantastic education there. But second, as an alumnus, I can tell you firsthand that most of the students and professors that have spoken to me are not supportive of Trump, and were not from the beginning.

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  43. This is heartening. Now I want to see them put their money where their mouth is. They’ve seen the true colors here — now leave this institution. Students and professors alike. If you believe better, do better than continuing to support a cornerstone of the Conservative Christian Right, which has been conflated with the gospel and Christ by manipulative American Christian leaders for too long.

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  44. Falwell parted ways with Christ a long time ago. I congratulate these students for witnessing to it, and it goes a long way toward redeeming a college with a very tarnished reputation.

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  45. There is nothing in that letter even remotely suggesting support for Secretary Clinton. Please don’t go off half-cocked because you assume things. The letter is about the president of the school endorsing Donald Trump, nothing more, nothing less.

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  46. Instead of blindly believing anything Trump says, perhaps you should take a look at the evidence. Clinton never laughed at the rape victim. The only times she is heard to laugh on the relevant tapes is with regard to the reliability of lie detector tests and at how the prosecution handled the evidence. She was acting, against her will, as the defence lawyer for the accused and gave him the best defence she could as is required by the US legal system. Immediately after that case, she helped set up the first Arkansas rape reporting line. Trump has consistently lied about this and so many other matters. After all, when Bill Clinton was being investigated for sexual assault, Trump defended him and attacked the Clinton accusers – the same women he is now shamelessly exploiting. As for Mr Falwell, he claimed on CNN today that Trump has become a Christian. Would he like to point out when this happened or is he saying that Trump’s behavior during and since the Primaries which consisted of insulting every one of his opponents, even attacking Cruz by insulting Cruz’ wife, is Christian-like behavior? Obviously, Mr Falwell has a different definition of Christianity from mine and, I am happy to note, different from that of the Liberty University Student Body.

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  47. The letter says nothing about endorsing any other candidate. Please stick to the subject at hand. Can you even try to think about Donald Trump without the knee-jerk reaction of “Hillary is bad”?

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  48. At this juncture, it behooves all Christians to continue to be led by the Holy Spirit. God will have the last say. If we fail to keep them in prayer that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life, this is what will be the result. I don’t believe that there is ANY candidate that we will totally agree with, but that is the very reason why we start with our state representatives who have the same values that we have so that they can influence the actions of the president. They can speak up for us. It has become increasingly difficult to stand on our biblical beliefs when for the sake of staying in office we give in to what is now being “politically correct.”

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  49. Michael, Please explain to us how Trump is going to do the things he has promised. He had been running for office for more than a year, and has not given any concrete ways that he is going to accomplish them. Son don’t be so full of hate that you become stupid, ask God to help you.

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  50. Good for you. For every horrendous, abysmal injustice suffered by any minority under the sun, the Right-Wing response is always,”But what about the fetuses???” Never mind that most of the babies aborted in America are black or biracial and have about 13-16 years to come under the scrutiny of the white, Evangelical church. Hand one a toy gun and put ’em in public and they’re downright deserving of murder. We want them born, but we don’t want offer birth control, health care, welfare, or a kind word. Does anyone else see a problem with that???

    Google what Jerry Falwell Sr. had to say about integration and women’s rights. UNBELIEVABLY insulting and disgusting (not to mention he lied about what he said about gays–and paid 5K for it when caught on tape) but along the lines of what we’ve heard from Trump.

    I see a turning hopefully for this city and this is just the beginning of a demand to either Falwell to repent or continue in this vein so that God can make an example out of him Nationally.

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  51. I’m a Christian and I’m voting Hillary because she is the only one who can beat Trump. As a pro-lifer who is against abortion, war, the death penalty and for gun control I’m not crazy about her, but as I see a vote for anyone else is a vote for Trump.

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  52. In essence the student are saying they are not in FAVOR of their university president giving the impression that the college is for Trump. There may be some student for Trump and maybe some for Hillery. Don’t play stupid. He does not represent the totality of the university. Support and allowing people to make their choice is two different things. Even God give man choice. Sure there will be consequences, but this is not a dictatorship. It is best to educate women and men about the consequences, not only to them, but the unborn baby. I hate abortion, but God tells us to hat the sin not the sinner. We are to love everyone. Did you get that memo. People have choices (and consequences) that is the how our constitution works. Any other would be a dictatorship and it will only be a matter of time when someone comes for you, your children or parents. Lets continue to love and have faith that God in in control. No fear.

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  53. Jerry Falwell Jr. has a reason to be for Trump. Trump has donated tons of money to several famous christians in hopes of Christians on his side. Franklin Graham is another of the people who has received large donations from Trump at the beginning of Trumps campaign. I recall having heard it at the time, and was unaware of why he would be donating to a christian evangelist, but when his announcement of running for president came out, I suddenly knew exactly why he did it. He was literally buying votes, because he knew he would need to have christians on his side—just like the anti abortion he took, which is a joke because way back before he was running for president, I read that he had two girls he had pregnant outside of marriage and he paid them large sums of money to get abortions.

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  54. My objection to supporting Trump has nothing to do with policies and beliefs which all Americans are entitled to have.
    Trump is opposed to fundamentals that America stands for such as freedoms of the individual without regard to race, creed, color, country of origin, sexual orientation so long as those beliefs do not infringe on the rights of others.
    Trump seeks to further his own way of bullying and conning and is thus not fit for the office.

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  55. So, because Hillary Clinton believes in choice – one should note that she never had an abortion nor did her daughter – & she believes that the government should not interfere in the sacred bonds of marriage period you would vote for Donald Trump? This is a man who cheated on 2 wives with his next wife & clearly would have cheated on the 3rd according to that tape…..This is a man who talks incessantly about his daughter & not in a Christian way….This is a man who has time & again cheated his fellow man in business deals & whose only love is really money. Are abortion & gay rights really the only things we should be worried about?
    Trump is a bully & he really hasn’t shown much Christian charity to his fellow man. His rhetoric stopped at Jr High level. He has not shown one iota of Christianity – EVER. There are ways to agree on abortion….Hillary has said it should be legal, safe & seldom….if you address the reasons women have abortions they will become less & less – banning abortion does not end it – it only kills women. I don’t know what to tell you about gay marriage except that it doesn’t really affect you. I have plenty of gay friends who are married & raising children. I can tell you that their lives are pretty much like yours & mine. They fight over the same things & they want the same things for their kids that you do. I don’t think or worry about my straight friends sex lives – why should I think or worry about theirs?
    If women have abortions or if gay folk get married; it does not end the world…If Donald Trump decides to take issue with what someone does or says & he wants to push the button – it might. If he insults a queen or a monarch from another country it could plunge us into another war or perpetual war.
    Sorry. At least Clinton is sane & not self serving. Out of the 2 of them, Clinton has fought tirelessly for social justice & for the middle class. She has fought for education – which Trump wants to gut. She has fought for young people to go to college. She has fought for equality of blacks She has fought for the poor. Most of those are issues Jesus asked us to address……
    In what way does Donald Trump speak to Christianity???????

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  56. Bill is not running for President, correct. Hillary stood by her man by calling out and trying to slander victims of sexual assault. Trump is no better but they are both garbage and both hypocrites….. which qualifies them both for President.

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  57. Are you willing to have a man with Trumps reputation? His well documented history of stepping on the necks of small businesses, as well as sexual abuses, and the fact that he tried to talk Marla Maples into having an abortion? He wasnt against abortion at all until it suited him to say he was so he could run as a Republican.

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  58. Wow! If the students of Liberty are supporting Hillary then this University has hit rock bottom . I will be praying for this University !.Hillary is for the killing of babies and she is anti Christian! This is not the Liberty that I remember .

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  59. Its a well known fact that Trump tried to talk Marla into having an abortion while she was pregnant with Tiffany. Trump himself supported abortion until it suited him to claim he didnt so he could run as a Republican. Trump wants to further enrich himself while driving others further down, by increasing taxes on the lower class as well as privatizing SS, and dismantling the ACA, ALL of which will cause countless deaths to people who cant afford their medicines, their doctors, heat or food. So he is willing to throw seniors and the poor under the bus, while giving lip service to the abortion issue. That doesnt make him any better than Hillary, and at least she supports social programs to help care for the nations needy.

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  60. Hey news flash Liberty Students. Both Candidates are non Christians. Neither of them follow Christ. But Trumps plans to make our country great again with more jobs, lowering taxes, better trade deals, reduce crime, and security are way better than 4 more years of Obama through Clinton.

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  61. I think this letter is a breath of fresh air in a conversation that often focuses more on the people at the top of the scale (in this case faculty and leadership of educational institutions) instead of the students. Far too many people think that student political views are shaped through the teachings of a school via its faculty or leadership. This is not the case for the majority of students. They have already developed their political ideologies in many ways before they enter college. Yes, faculty and leadership can make an impact, but not like many think they do.

    Political ideology is often shaped by one’s experiences. While faculty and leadership contact plays a role in that, often student experiences outside the classroom or campus play a greater role in that shaping. The younger generation is often different than their parents when it comes to political ideology for a lot of reasons. Therefore it should not be a surprise that the students at Liberty are not displaying the same ideology as Jerry Falwell, Jr.

    When it comes to Falwell’s role in trying to shape his student’s ideology, I think he is missing the point and failing to accomplish what he intends. Instead, he is just displaying his personal ideology and doing so through his university to influence people who do not attend that school. How much impact that will have on his school is a long term concern.

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  62. Hi, Wanda.

    Well, seeing as your god prescribes a potion to induce a miscarriage in Numbers and goads the Israelite army into slicing open the wombs of the women of it’s enemies and then dashing the children’s heads upon rocks, ya, it’s pretty clear to some that your god doesn’t value all life the same, or even women’s, (you’re only worth half as much as a man according to scripture) and is literally in support of forced abortion. Don’t argue with me about this, you can read about it in your bible.

    God bless.

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  63. Bill is NOT the one running! Stop deflecting like MOST of the Trump bakers do and focus on the WRONG that has been done by Trump’s actions. His actions hit the public directly. Henceforth his supporters back sexual harassment, common decency, respect, and truth. God does the judging not you or Trump or the general public. Once again, BILL is not running. Hillary stood by her husband (is that a teaching of faith) when he had the affairs? Is she still married to him? How about Trump, he had how many affairs and divorced how many women and has sexually harassed how many women?

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  64. No party or platform is ever perfect. One always compromises. They can write in someone for their vote as well. We are not forced to pick between only two people (or the four that will be on this coming ballot). We have liberty! and the right to vote according to our conscience.

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  65. Does this mean that these students are going to support Hillary? As a Christian, are we to support a party that endorses abortion and marriage between two same sex partners? Are you willing to have someone with Bill Clinton’s reputation be in the White House?

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  66. Ephesians 5:3-7 New International Version (NIV)

    3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. 4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. 5 For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient. 7 Therefore do not be partners with them.

    Therefore do not be partners with them…

    Hmmm.
    This situation is exactly what God was warning us about.
    2 Corinthians 6:14
    Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?
    When you do partner with them, you lose your light.

    And remember, this is coming from a gay Christian who is fighting for LGBT rights and believes gay is acceptable to God.
    http://www.matthewvines.com/

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  67. I have always questioned the Falwells’ and Robertsons’ (Pat) motives, especially when it comes to the “Christian” universities (Liberty and Regent) they head. I am pleased by the student body’s response to their university president’s endorsement of this presidential candidate. The motivation behind the founding of these organizations may have some sinister undertones; at least the student body seems to understand what the purpose of their university SHOULD be.

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  68. Perhaps it’s time for the student body and faculty to realize that Falwell, like his father, isnt interested so much in the teachings of Christ as he is seeing how much money and self-publicity and connections he can make off it. Perhaps a re-reading of ELMER GANTRY is in order?

    Ask yourself. Does a true man (or woman) of Christ brandish his wealth with a few mansions and a private airplane? Does a true man of Christ spew the kinds of garbage Falwell — and Franklin Graham, another shyster-in-arms — has? Is there anything even remotely Christ-like about this man? Or isnt it time all of you woke up to the simple fact that you’re just being played to keep this man in the style to which he has become accustomed? Of course he supports Trump — he and Trump are cut from the same cloth. And the true embarrassment is that you’ve gone along with it and that it took you this long to figure it out. With all the horrible, terrible things DT has said over the last year, it finally took his verbal assault on married white women before you got a clue? SERIOUSLY???

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  69. May President Falwell Jr. be blessed with a reminder from Jesus himself when He said:
    What will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, yet loses or forfeits his very self? If anyone is ashamed of Me and My words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He comes in His glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels. Luke 9:26 / Matthew 10:32 / Mark 8:38.

    Not only for the sake of the University, but himself too.

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  70. Bravo to these Liberty U students. They are absolutely right on all counts. It was inappropriate for Falwell to endorse Trump (or any candidate) at all. Given his status, he DOES speak for the school even when he claims not to. Liberty HAS been associated with Trump as a result. I am proud of these students for wanting to reclaim their school from this unfortunate affiliation. Well done.

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