Of course I can’t miss the chance to say that The Way of Improvement Leads Home Podcast was born in the Little Amps 1836 Green St location.
Of course I can’t miss the chance to say that The Way of Improvement Leads Home Podcast was born in the Little Amps 1836 Green St location.
If you are a fan of The Way of Improvement Leads Home Podcast, you will remember our interview in Episode 3 with Yoni Appelbaum, historian and IDEAS editor at The Atlantic. In this piece, Appelbaum makes a case for the impeachment of Donald Trump. Here is a taste:
The oath of office is a president’s promise to subordinate his private desires to the public interest, to serve the nation as a whole rather than any faction within it. Trump displays no evidence that he understands these obligations. To the contrary, he has routinely privileged his self-interest above the responsibilities of the presidency. He has failed to disclose or divest himself from his extensive financial interests, instead using the platform of the presidency to promote them. This has encouraged a wide array of actors, domestic and foreign, to seek to influence his decisions by funneling cash to properties such as Mar-a-Lago (the “Winter White House,” as Trump has branded it) and his hotel on Pennsylvania Avenue. Courts are now considering whether some of those payments violate the Constitution.
More troubling still, Trump has demanded that public officials put their loyalty to him ahead of their duty to the public. On his first full day in office, he ordered his press secretary to lie about the size of his inaugural crowd. He never forgave his first attorney general for failing to shut down investigations into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, and ultimately forced his resignation. “I need loyalty. I expect loyalty,” Trump told his first FBI director, and then fired him when he refused to pledge it.
Trump has evinced little respect for the rule of law, attempting to have the Department of Justice launch criminal probes into his critics and political adversaries. He has repeatedly attacked both Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and Special Counsel Robert Mueller. His efforts to mislead, impede, and shut down Mueller’s investigation have now led the special counsel to consider whether the president obstructed justice.
As for the liberties guaranteed by the Constitution, Trump has repeatedly trampled upon them. He pledged to ban entry to the United States on the basis of religion, and did his best to follow through. He has attacked the press as the “enemy of the people” and barred critical outlets and reporters from attending his events. He has assailed black protesters. He has called for his critics in private industry to be fired from their jobs. He has falsely alleged that America’s electoral system is subject to massive fraud, impugning election results with which he disagrees as irredeemably tainted. Elected officials of both parties have repeatedly condemned such statements, which has only spurred the president to repeat them.
These actions are, in sum, an attack on the very foundations of America’s constitutional democracy.
Read the entire piece here.
I am happy to have Matt Lakemacher writing for us this weekend from the annual meeting of the American Historical Association in Chicago. Matt is one of the most engaged middle school teachers I know. He teaches at Woodland Middle School in Gurnee, Illinois and is a veteran of numerous summer history seminars and institutes. Here is his first dispatch:
Can podcasting help to stem the tide of declining enrollment in history departments? For the panelists and audience members in an opening American Historical Association roundtable today on “History Podcasting as Graduate Students,” the answer was a resounding, if qualified, yes. Producers and hosts from two historical podcasts, Sexing History and The Way of Improvement Leads Home, gave brief remarks on their experiences with history podcasting and then opened it up for audience members to share the ways that they’ve used podcasts in the classroom and with students. In the end, it became clear that while podcasting (as well as blogging) might not be the silver bullet that saves history education, it can be another tool in the history teacher’s arsenal to make the subject relevant, keep students’ interest, and in jargon that all K-12 educators know their administrators want to hear: promote 21st century skills.
Two dual themes emerged from the panel: podcasting is good for history and history is good for podcasting. Each panelist related in one way or another how working on a podcast actually improved their work as grad students and as historians. According to Saniya Lee Ghanoui, podcasting with Sexing History taught her the importance of story-telling and has greatly improved her dissertation writing. In a similar vein, Devin McGeehan Muchmore shared how blogging for Notches and working on Sexing History got him to think about ways of narrating the past outside of the traditional historical monograph or journal article. And Drew Dyrli Hermeling credited his work on The Way of Improvement Leads Home with getting a job at the Digital Harrisburg Project. As a whole, the panel embraced the role that podcasting can play in public history – bringing the past to those outside of the academy (although it was conceded that podcasting is still very much a niche medium and can be somewhat of an echo chamber). Ghanoui offered some advice to her fellow grad students: “It does take away time from your dissertation . . . but it’s a welcome distraction.” She added, “I love how collaborative it is . . . it is worth it.”
Hermeling set the table for the audience discussion that followed and the pivot to history being good for podcasting, by sharing how he had students in his J-Term class on indigenous culture at Messiah College create a podcast as one option for a project assignment. He, as well as the audience, made clear that audio quality and production values should not be heavily weighted on any rubric used for grading such an assignment. But Hermeling was surprised by the quality of the research and sources that students used in their podcast. “It’s a good way of tricking them into using a lot of citations.” One audience member admitted that compared to other assignments, grading student podcasts was a pleasure. Another said that Wisconsin Public Radio was looking to possibly use some of his students’ short pieces on the air. And everyone who shared during the session had positive experiences doing a podcasting assignment in class, thought the students were engaged, and plan on doing them again.
So, can podcasting turn around sagging interest in history as a K-12 subject and as a major? Perhaps the jury is still out. But if it provides another way of getting students to apply historical thinking skills to a (relatively) new technology and opens another venue for bringing historical literacy to the public at large, then it’s an effort well worth pursuing. As the roundtable’s chair and host of Sexing History Lauren Gutterman stated, “graduate students are at the forefront of history podcasting,” and for that this history teacher and fellow grad student is grateful. Of course, as Hermeling put it in one final word of advice for potential history podcasters, “At the risk of being flippant, I’d go the Sexing History route.”
AHA Session 14
Thursday, January 3, 2019: 1:30 PM-3:00 PM
Williford B (Hilton Chicago, Third Floor)
Lauren Gutterman, University of Texas at Austin
Saniya Lee Ghanoui, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Andrew Dyrli Hermeling, Lehigh University
Devin McGeehan Muchmore, Harvard University
There has been a proliferation of history podcasts that are helping historians to engage in new conversations about the past. Graduate students play a vital role in these podcasts, even as they grapple with speedup in graduate education, precarious job prospects, and uneven professional recognition for their public history work. Yet with an acceptance of the discipline’s movement towards digital history, graduate students are at the forefront of this trend as they create, write, and produce podcasts and public history. Coming from the producers of Sexing History and The Way of Improvement Leads Home, we explore both the practical issues encountered with history podcasting and the academic/theoretical ones, as well. Presenters will discuss the practical concerns of conducting public history work through podcasting while, at the same time, balancing dissertation writing and course work; examine the benefits of becoming involved in public history projects as graduate students; and look at how podcasting can benefit broader career preparation. Furthermore, we will discuss the use of podcasts in the classrooms and how they have aided us in new forms of teaching history. We encourage audience members to participate in the discussion and share their own experiences with history podcasts.
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Season 5 is well underway. So far we have chatted with:
And, of course, previous episodes are always available at your favorite podcatcher. Listen to interviews with:
And many, many more!
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If you listened to Episode 42 of The Way of Improvement Leads Home Podcast you may recall producer Drew Dyrli Hermeling talking about his experience serving as a “chaplain” to Archbishop Desmond Tutu.
According to the website of the Episcopal Church, a chaplain is “appointed to serve monarchs, bishops, and the nobility. Some modern bishops, especially primates, have chaplains. Some bishops use a ‘bishop’s chaplain’ to assist with ceremonies at episcopal services.”
Here is Drew in action:
You will need to listen to the episode for context.
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OK, The Way of Improvement Leads Home Podcast is not a small business (perhaps this post is more fitting for #GivingTuesday), but we could still use your support. If you like the show, head over to our Patreon page and support us! We are really excited about our next three episodes that will drop before the end of the year.
The Way of Improvement Leads Home Podcast co-host and producer Drew Hermeling is in Cambridge, Massachusetts this weekend. He is doing a presentation on the podcast at Sound Education: A Conference for Educational Podcasts and Listeners. Harvard University is hosting the event.
Here is a description of his session:
Seeing Early America Everywhere: Connecting Eighteenth-Century History to Unexpected Places with Andrew Hermeling (The Way of Improvement Leads Home)
@ Divinity Hall, Room 106
Colonial Puritans and Colin Kaepernick. Mount Vernon and Mar-a-Lago. Eighteenth-century midwifery and Obamacare. These may seem like odd connections, but in their efforts to prove that #everythinghasahistory, early American historians and podcasters John Fea and Drew Dyrli Hermeling regularly demonstrate that today’s hot-button issues have eighteenth-century antecedents. If you look close enough, you can see early America everywhere.
There are some great podcasters at Harvard this weekend. Here are a few that caught my attention:
Ed O’Donnell of In the Past Lane
Blair Hodges of the Maxwell Institute Podcast
Marshal Poe of New Books Network
Dan Carlin of Hardcore History
We will try to get Drew to write a report of the conference and post it here. Stay tuned.
Abby is a senior Broadcast and Media Production major from Westfield, New Jersey. She is also a very busy woman! When Abby is not editing podcast episodes, working another part-time job, and taking classes, she is working on the Messiah College tech crew and producing a campus television show. Last year she spent a semester off campus in Nashville where she studied at the Contemporary Music Center.
Welcome aboard, Abby! Drop her a note in the comments sections or at one of our social media feeds and welcome her to The Way of Improvement Leads Home team!
I love this interview at Slate. It is not only a subject–historical thinking in schools–that I interests me, but both participants in the interview are former guests on The Way of Improvement Leads Home Podcast. Sam Wineburg was a guest on Episode 3. Rebecca Onion was our guest on Episode 12. (We hope to have Wineburg back this season–stay tuned).
Onion talks to Wineburg about his new book, Why Learn History (When It’s Already on Your Phone). Here is a taste:
I loved the note you made about the difference between “sounding critical” and thinking critically. President Trump recently said that Google is biased against conservatives. There have been a number of instances of this, where Trump or someone Trump-ish will say something that sounds critical or wise but isn’t. It’s hard because it almost feels like there is an appropriation of the language of critical thinking on the right that makes it hard to explain what the difference might be between that and what we are talking about.
It’s not “almost an appropriation,” it is an appropriation. And in this respect, the work that has influenced me the most is the work by Kate Starbird, an absolutely brilliant internet researcher who studies crisis communication at the University of Washington’s College of Engineering.* And she has a paper that shows that the alt-right has, right there with Alex Jones, has appropriated the language of “Do you have an open mind? Are you an independent thinker? Are you willing to trust your own intelligence to make up your own mind when you review the evidence?”
And so absolutely, this is the language that has been appropriated by the alt-right in particular, these neo-Nazi sites and conspiracy sites that basically say, “The wool is being pulled over your eyes! But you have the power to [pose] thoughtful questions through your own powers of discernment if you have an open mind.” This is the stock-in-trade of propagandists—you can go back and see the same kind of thing in work by Lenin and Goebbels: “You should trust yourself. We’re not going to tell you what to believe, you evaluate the evidence—here is the evidence.”
Read the entire interview here.
We are in the studio this week recording episodes for Season 5 of The Way of Improvement Leads Home Podcast.
Like Season 4, we have some GREAT guests in the queue. As always, we NEED YOUR HELP. Learn how you can support high-quality American history podcasting here. All supporters are eligible for a The Way of Improvement Leads Home Podcast mug or a signed copy of one of my books, including Believe Me: The Evangelical Road to Donald Trump. Here are some pics:
We are gearing up for Season 5 of The Way of Improvement Leads Home Podcast. Stay tuned. New episodes are almost here!
If you are interested in conversations and commentary with some great historians and historical thinkers, you are not going to want to miss this upcoming season. We hope you will download episodes, write reviews of the show at your favorite podcast sites, and share the podcast with your friends. We also invite you to support us financially. The Way of Improvement Leads Home Podcast is funded primarily by listeners. Check out how you can contribute at our Patreon page. All donor money, of course, goes to the production and development of the podcast. It is used to pay our producer and studio engineer.
We accept pledges and one-time gifts. And you may be eligible for a free The Way of Improvement Leads Home Podcast coffee mug or a free signed book (including Believe Me: The Evangelical Road to Donald Trump).
Here is a quick summary of all of our episodes:
Episode 1: Jim Grossman, the Executive Director of the American Historical Society, reminds us that “Everything Has a History.”
Episode 2: Historian Daniel Williams talks about the history of the pro-life movement in America.
Episode 3: Yoni Appelbaum, Ideas Editor at The Atlantic, helps us think historically about electoral politics.
Episode 4: Stanford’s Sam Wineburg talks about historical thinking “and other unnatural acts.”
Episode 5: Tim Grove of the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum talks about museums and writing history for children.
Episode 6: Nate DiMeo of the wildly popular podcast “The Memory Place” talks about telling stories about the past.
Episode 7: Paul Lukas of ESPN talks about history, memory, nostalgia, and sports uniforms.
Episode 8: Pulitzer Prize-winning historian Annette Gordon Reed and Peter Onuf discuss the complex life and legacy of Thomas Jefferson.
Episode 9: Author Marc Dolan discusses the historical, political, and spiritual significance of Bruce Springsteen.
Episode 10: Thomas Jefferson living history interpreter Steve Edenbo talks about what it is like to be a Jefferson re-enactor in a post-Hamilton world.
Episode 11: Historian Ann Little reflects on the writing of biography through the 18th-century life of Esther Wheelright.
Episode 12: Slate‘s Rebecca Onion talks about bringing good history to the public.
Episode 13: NPR reporter Sarah McCammon tells us what it is like to follow Donald Trump on the campaign trail.
Episode 14: Historian Amy Bass joins us to talk Olympics, baseball, and sports history.
Episode 15: Jonathan Fetter-Vorm, the co-author and illustrator of Battle Lines: A Graphic History of the Civil War, discusses graphic novels as a way of communicating history to the public.
Episode 16: Award-winning historian Manisha Sinha teaches us about the history of abolitionist movement.
Episode 17: Douglas Bradburn, CEO of Mount Vernon, talks with us about George Washington and his Virginia estate.
Episode 18: Historian Bruce Berglund discusses religion and culture in 20th century Prague and we explore the internationalization of American history.
Episode 19: Documentary filmmaker Martin Doblmeier talks about his film: An American Conscience: The Reinhold Niebuhr Story.
Episode 20: Historian Adrian Burgos Jr., editor-in-chief of La Vida Baseball, tackles race, ethnicity, and American baseball.
Episode 21: Scott Hartley, author of The Fuzzy and the Techie: Why the Liberal Arts will Rule the Digital World, argues that we need more historians in the Silicon Valley.
Episode 22: Bancroft Prize-winning historian Nancy Tomes discusses the history of health-care in America.
Episode 23: Amanda Moniz of the Smithsonian National Museum of American History talks about the history of philanthropy in the United States.
Episode 24: Podcaster Liz Covart talks about podcasting and her popular podcast Ben Franklin’s World.
Episode 25: Kelly Baker, a historian of the KKK, helps us put the violence in Charlottesville, Virginia into historical context.
Episode 26: Kevin Gannon, aka “The Tatooed Prof,” talks history pedagogy and introduces us to his “Teaching Manifesto.”
Episode 27: Historian Julian Chambliss interprets Trump’s “Mar-a-Lago in the context of Florida history, environmental history, and populism.
Episode 28: We talk soul music with Jeff Kollath, executive director of the Stax Museum in Memphis.
Episode 29: National Book Award finalist Nancy MacLean discusses libertarianism and the threat to democracy.
Episode 30: Pulitzer Prize-winning writer Francis Fitzgerald discusses the history of American evangelicalism.
Episode 31: History teacher Mike Milway and his students talk about historical thinking in the classroom and the mission of Boston Trinity Academy.
Episode 32: Historian R. Marie Griffith discusses the links between sexual politics and evangelicalism in modern America.
Episode 33: Historian Amy Bass tells us the story of an amazing group of Somali refugees and their quest to win the Maine state soccer championship.
Episode 34: Princeton historian Kevin Kruse tells us what it is like to be a prominent Twitterstorian.
Episode 35: Historian Bruce Berglund is back to talk about his new project on global ice hockey.
Episode 36: Historian Timothy Shannon introduces us to Peter Williamson, an 18th-century life that spans both sides of the Atlantic.
Episode 37: Historian Erin Bartram, the author of the viral blog post “The Sublimated Grief of the Left Behind,” helps us answer the question: “Should You Go to Graduate School?”
Episode 38: Randall Stephens talks about the complicated relationship between Christianity and rock ‘n’ roll.
Bonus Live Episode: John and Drew talk about the podcast and digital humanities at the Messiah College Educator’s Day.
I met a lot of great people on the first leg of the Believe Me book tour last week. Thanks again for coming out to your local independent bookstore for a conversation about evangelical history and Donald Trump!
I know some of you heard about The Way of Improvement Leads Home blog for the first time last week. Welcome to our little place on the Internet! I also want to call your attention to The Way of Improvement Leads Home Podcast, a podcast devoted to American history and its role in our everyday lives. We talk with award-winning authors, journalists, museum curators, teachers, and anyone who has something useful to say about the place of American history in our democracy.
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Season Four at The Way of Improvement Leads Home podcast is a wrap! We will be back later this month with two bonus episodes (stay tuned!), but we are done recording episodes. I am writing because we could really use your hope as we start preparing for the possibility of a fifth season. in the Fall.
For those unfamiliar, the podcast brings interviews and commentary related to American history, historical thinking, and the role of history in our everyday lives. In each episode we talk to someone doing innovative, creative, and thoughtful work in American history. Our guests include historians, authors, filmmakers, museum professionals, teachers, public intellectuals, podcasters, and journalists.
Our guests have included:
And much, much more!
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The Community of Educators gathered today at “Educator’s Day,” a tradition in which our faculty and co-curricular educators mark the end of the previous year and turn our attention to developing ourselves for the year ahead. The theme of this year’s Educator’s Day was “Flourishing in a Digital World.”
As I noted in my post this morning, the administration asked us to record an episode of the podcast related to this theme. Our guests were three humanities scholars doing very creative work at the intersection of digital scholarship and place. David Pettegrew runs Messiah College’s Digital Harrisburg Initiative, Jean Corey runs Messiah’s Center for Public Humanities, and Nathan Skulstad is a digital documentarian and story-teller.
We could not have done this live episode without the hard work of podcast producer Drew Dyrli Hermeling and Cynthia Wells, the director of the Ernest L. Boyer Center at Messiah. Thanks as well to Ashley Sheaffer of the Messiah College Agape Center for interviewing me on the episode and the skilled technicians on the Messiah College sound team for making us sound good!
Stay tuned. This bonus episode will drop sometime in the next few weeks. In the meantime, head over to Patreon site and help get us to Season 5.
Live podcast with The Way of Improvement Leads Home Podcast from @JohnFea1 at Community of Educators day @messiahcollege . A fun change of pace from lecture style presentations after a long semester. pic.twitter.com/D4tLuhxcUB
— Sam Wilcock (@DrWilcock) May 21, 2018
Listening to a live recording of @JohnFea1‘s podcast during @messiahcollege May Development Week. He’s being joined by producer @ddyrlihermeling & colleagues David Pettegrew, Jean Corey, and @NathanSkulstad for a conversation on “flourishing as scholars in a digital world.” pic.twitter.com/Gp4u2ZbgzT
— Devin Manzullo-Thomas (@devinmzt) May 21, 2018
Could we just do *that* with May Week every year?
— Devin Manzullo-Thomas (@devinmzt) May 21, 2018
Just now realizing I could have slept in and listened to the edited podcast in a few weeks. 😂
— Josiah Hatfield (@josiahdhatfield) May 21, 2018
And Drew’s excellent response to Mr. Hatfield’s snarky tweet:
Yeah, cause an album and live show are exactly the same experience 😉
— Drew Dyrli Hermeling (@ddyrlihermeling) May 21, 2018
When this post appears on the blog (9:50am on Monday, May 20, 2018) I will be sitting with Drew Dyrli Hermeling on the magnificent stage of Parmer Hall at Messiah College hosting a special episode of The Way of Improvement Leads Home Podcast. The episode is being recorded right now in front of a live studio audience at Messiah’s “Educator’s Day.” Every year, Messiah College’s community of educators gather on the Monday following graduation for a day of professional development. This year’s theme is “Flourishing in a Digital Age” and the administration has asked me to dedicate a podcast episode to digital scholarship and teaching at Messiah College.
We have done 38 full episodes of the podcast thus far. I have interviewed Pulitzer Prize–winning authors and all kinds of other important people in the history field, but I have never been more nervous than I am this morning. There is something different about having to host this podcast in front of a few hundred of my colleagues!
I think it is fair to say that most Messiah College educators are not familiar with the blog or the podcast. Many will be finding their way to http://www.thewayofimprovement.com from their phones and laptops as they listen to us recording the podcast on stage. If you are one of those educators, welcome to our online home! Feel free to explore a bit and get acquainted with what we have been doing here for the last ten years! 🙂
Next weekend Episode 38 of The Way of Improvement Leads Home Podcast will be available via ITunes and most other podcasting sites. Our guest is Randall Stephens of Northumbria University. We will be talking with Randall about his new book The Devil’s Music: How Christians Inspired, Condemned, and Embraced Rock ‘n’ Roll. It is a great episode!
The forthcoming pisode 38 is our final regular episode of Season 4. We think it has been our best yet. During the 2017-2018 academic year we talked with the following guests:
Episode 37: Erin Bartram talked about her viral essay “The Sublimated Grief of the Left Behind.
Episode 36: Timothy Shannon discussed Atlantic History and his new book Indian Captive, Indian King.
Episode 35: We talked the history of ice hockey and globalization with historian Bruce Berglund
Episode 34: Princeton University’s Kevin Kruse talked about life as a twitterstorian/
Episode 33: Amy Bass joined us to talk about her new book One Goal: A Coach, A Team, and the Game That Brought a Divided Town Together.
Episode 32: R. Marie Griffith joined us to talk about her new book Moral Combat: How Sex Divided American Christians and Fractured American Politics
Episode 31: We chatted with history students from Boston Trinity Academy in Boston, Massachusetts
Episode 30: Pulitzer Prize-winning writer Frances Fitzgerald joined us to discuss her latest book, The Evangelicals.
Episode 29: National Book Award finalist Nancy MacLean talked her book Democracy in Chains
Episode 28: Jeff Kollath, the Executive Director of the Stax Museum in Memphis, joined us to talk about soul music.
Episode 27: We were joined by Julian Chambliss for a discussion of Florida history and Mar-a-Lago
Episode 26: Pedagogy expert Kevin Gannon joined us to talk about teaching history
Episode 25: KKK scholar Kelly Baker helped us put Charlottesville in some historical perspective
I hope you enjoyed these episodes. We have plans to return for a 5th season, but we will not be able to pull it off without your support. As I have said many times before, podcasts are time-consuming and (relatively) expensive to produce. At this point, I do not get paid a cent for my role as host and creator. All the money we raise goes to paying our producer and studio technician.
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If you listen to The Way of Improvement Leads Home Podcast you know the work of Josh Lowrie. Josh is our studio producer and the guy who makes us sound good. His work is largely unheralded, but we could not do it without him!
Josh will be with us for one more episode before he graduates, gets married, and heads-off to a new job in Maryland. He recently made this announcement on his Facebook page:
I am very pleased to announce that after graduation I will be working at Bay Area Community Church as the Student Ministries Program Coordinator!! I am very excited for the upcoming journey ahead! Thank you to everyone who has been praying for me as I’ve been looking for a job!
Congratulations, Josh! I think it goes without saying that his work at the podcast is what really landed him this new job! 🙂