James Dobson insisted that Bill Clinton did not have the character to be POTUS, but he has no problem with Donald Trump. I discuss Dobson and others in Believe Me: The Evangelical Road to Donald Trump.
Here is an interview he recently conducted with Jerry Newcombe, a Christian nationalist author who writes about the American past. Newcombe interviewed me on his radio show in June 2012. We had a good conversation.
There are several problems with Newcombe’s view of Thomas Jefferson, but he also gets some things right. I am not going to go into the details here. As many of you know, I wrote about Jefferson and religion in Was America Founded as a Christian Nation?: A Historical Introduction.
It is striking to listen to these culture warriors. They continue to follow the political playbook of the Christian Right that they learned (and in some ways helped to create) in the 1980s. In fact, much of this interview could have taken place in the 1980s. Little has changed in their approach to political engagement. They cling to the playbook.
If you get a chance to listen to this interview, you will hear two evangelical men (especially Dobson) who place their trust in the Supreme Court to save the moral decline of the country. I am confident that Dobson and Newcombe believe that Jesus is their Savior, but when they talk about cultural change it is all about winning political battles. Dobson gets nostalgic about Robert Bork. Newcombe blames the Supreme Court for the cultural “mess” in America. They say almost nothing about the role of the church and its place in the culture promoting life, peace, justice, love, compassion, and mercy.