Tweets From OAH Session on the American Enlightenment

April 11, 2014November 21, 2017 / johnfea

Here are my tweets. This was an interesting panel. I will try to write a blog post on it soon. Stay tuned.

Read from the bottom in order to see the Tweets in chronological order. For more about the panel click here. For responses, retweets, live links, and favorites check out #oah2014 or @johnfea1

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12:22 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Joyce Chaplin shocked that people teach the Enlightenment in their classes. Wow. #oah2014
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12:19 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Discussion on teaching the Enlightenment in America.  I once gave this a shot. #oah2014  http://www.journalofamericanhistory.org/teaching/2003_09/ …

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12:18 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Dallett Hemphill from floor: After listening to this panel she doesn’t see anything really new about the state of the field. #oah2014

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12:16 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Chaplin says no one wins prizes writing intellectual history.  Ouch.  Tell that to George Marsden or Louis Menand.  #oah2014

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12:14 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Torre: The “natural” speaks to American Enlightenment in the way “sociability” and “virtue” speak to the Scottish Enlightenment. #oah2014

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12:13 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Jose Torre: Perhaps “the natural” might be a way to focus the Enlightenment in America.  Natural rights, natural science, etc… #oah2014

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12:10 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Chaplin:  Any new synthetic work of the Enlightenment in America must talk a lot about slavery.” #oah2014

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12:08 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Question from floor: Scottish Enlightenment driven by pursuit of virtue and sociability.  What about in America? #oah2014

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12:03 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Jose Torre:  Even 18th century skeptics draw their epistemology from some kind of benevolent God.  He is right. #oah2014

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12:02 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details Flag media

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I’ll take this one. Enlightenment did not always lead to complete separation of church and state in the states.  http://www.amazon.com/Was-America-Founded-Christian-Nation/dp/0664235042/ref=la_B001JSAARU_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1397242911&sr=1-2 …

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12:00 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Question from floor: What about Enlightenment and religion?  What about church and state and state’s bills of rights? #oah2014

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11:58 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Meranze: A lot of two-way movement between colonies/U.S. and Europe.  Not just European Enlightenment in America #OAH2104

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11:57 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Chaplin:  “Transatlantic” is a good start, but what about the influence of the non-western world on the Enlightenment?  #oah2014

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11:56 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Jose Torre: When did “the nation” start to be used as a category to define an Enlightenment narrative?  #oah2015

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11:55 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Waldstreicher:  Enlightenment as transatlantic gets us around the Revolution, but at same time it is used to define the Revolution #oah2014

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11:53 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Waldstreicher wants to bring discussion back to the transatlantic nature of the Enlightenment.  Role of transmission is key here. #oah2014

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11:44 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Debate between Meranze and Opal on the brutality of slavery.  Not sure how it is connected to this broader discussion.  #oah2014

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11:37 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Opal:  Enlightenment should be a category, but agrees with Chaplin that is could be attached to environment–swamps. #oah2014

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11:36 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Chaplin:  Need to connect Enlightenment to environmental history.  #oah2014

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11:31 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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@rzhist makes a passionate defense of the Enlightenment as a useful construct #oah2014

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11:24 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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David Waldstreicher making a connection between historians and literary critics in the way they handle the Enlightenment #oah2014

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11:19 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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No local Enlightenment?  Jaffe, Landsman, Opal?    I hope Jason will speak up and say something here.  #oah2014

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11:18 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details Flag media

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Chaplin: Early Americanists have not explored the local Enlightenment among early Americans.  I am offended 🙂  http://www.amazon.com/Way-Improvement-Leads-Home-Enlightenment/dp/0812220595/ref=la_B001JSAARU_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1397240058&sr=1-4 …

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11:16 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Jose Torre: Enlightenment is always defined as positive in nature. I tried to argue that this was not the case for PV Fithian #oah2014

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11:15 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Jason Opal:  The Enlightenment is about making life less miserable.  #oah2014

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11:14 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details Flag media

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Oh no–now the panel is trying to define the Enlightenment.  See my answer here: http://www.amazon.com/Way-Improvement-Leads-Home-Enlightenment/dp/0812220595/ref=la_B001JSAARU_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1397240058&sr=1-4 …

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11:13 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Meranze:  May focused on Christianity in his 1976 book because the Enlightenment was always understood in Europe as secular. #oah2014

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11:12 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Meranze is defending Henry May against critics who call it a top-down work of intellectual history.   #oah2014

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11:11 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Henry May was just mentioned by Joyce @JoyceChaplin1   Finally.  @oah2014

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11:08 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Joyce Chaplin:  Most early Americanists think the Enlightenment has to be treated as “top-down” history.  They are out of touch.  #oah2014

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11:07 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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This session is 20 minutes in and no one has mentioned Henry May yet.  How can this be?   #oah2014

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11:06 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Sitting next to Ben Carp.  Told me about a new piece on Enlightenment by John Dixon forthcoming.  #oah2014

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11:04 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Meranze:  Not sure we need a new book on Enlightenment, but do need one on the Revolution.  What? #oah2014

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11:03 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Knott:  Early Americanists doing best work on social world of Enlightenment, but do not seem interested in high Enlightenment. #oah2014

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11:01 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Sarah Knott says we need a big book on the American Enlightenment.  I wonder if this is because Henry May has been so successful.  #oah2014

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10:59 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Zagarri asks: Are American historians hostile to the category of the Enlightenment?

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10:56 AM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Rosemarie Zagarri @rzhist is introducing the panel on the Trans-Atlantic Enlightenment.  She is going to run a free-wheeling Q&A  #oah2014

One thought on “Tweets From OAH Session on the American Enlightenment”

Michael Hattem

April 11, 2014 at 11:20 pm

A lot to chew on here, the least of which is Chaplin's cynicism.

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