Tweets from OAH Plenary: Historians and Their Publics

April 11, 2014November 21, 2017 / johnfea

Here are most of my tweets. This session was packed, but I managed to find a seat in the back corner with David Swartz and Jonathan Rees. Expect a blog post on this session soon.

Read from the bottom in order to see the Tweets in chronological order. For more about the panel click here. For responses, retweets, live links, and favorites check out #oah2014 or @johnfea1

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1:55 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Lepore:  “I have no tolerance for the intrusion of the historian into the narrative.” It’s “tiresome,” and “unseemly.”  #oah2014

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1:54 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Lepore and Wilentz are stirring the crowd into a frenzy.   #oah2014

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1:52 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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I think a revival meeting just broke out. People preaching public history. Get the sawdust out. A lot of passion in the room right now. 2014

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1:51 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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BTW:  Lepore was VERY fired up about how the profession dissed her book on the Tea Party.

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1:48 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Question asking for clarity on difference between “public history” and “how historians communicate to the public.”  #oah2014

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1:48 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Now they are talking about Glenn Beck. Right up my alley. #oah2014  http://www.uminnpressblog.com/2012/03/they-came-for-john-fea.html …

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1:46 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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There’s another dimension to this.  Will people listen to professional historians (mostly liberal) talking about misconceptions. #oah2014

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1:45 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Lepore talks about her tea party book. Says she felt a “chill” from the historical profession. She was told it was a waste of time. #oah2014

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1:44 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Lepore: Like Wilentz’s website idea, but we “gravely underestimate” the profession’s willingness to get behind this idea.  @oah2014

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1:43 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Wilentz:  Needs to be a non-partisan website designed to correct historical misconceptions. #oah2014

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1:40 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Regarding last Tweet about Guelzo: Conference on Faith and History meeting at Pepperdine in late September.  #oah2014

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1:38 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Allen Guelzo will be giving plenary talk at Fall meeting of CFH in which he will challenge the entire idea of “public history.” #oah2014

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1:36 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Kraut:  More public history sessions at OAH and AHA than ever before. #oah2014

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1:34 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Question/Comment:  Culture of history departments do not fully accept people who are not going in the traditional academic field. #oah2014

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1:32 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Question: Our culture wants answers, but historians work in shades of gray.  How do you reach people who want definitive answers.  #oah2014

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1:30 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Kraut: Never took course in public history, but has done public history his entire career and founded the program at American U. #oah2014

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1:28 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Question:  Do you need to have “done” public history in order to teach it?  Crew says it definitely helps. #oah2014

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1:27 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Lynch:  There is a craft to doing good documentaries. Just can’t pick up a camera.  Best for historians to collaborate.  #oah2014

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1:26 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Lynch:Making documentary films is an “awful business.”  She has a day job. Historians and film-makers must collaborate.  #oah2014

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1:24 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Question from audience:  How do we teach our students to not only be talking heads in film, but to make films? #oah2014

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1:23 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Now turning to the audience for questions. #oah2014

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1:23 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Crew talking about the founding of the Bible of Nat Turner and how it came to the Smithsonian.  #oah2014

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1:22 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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@rizzo_pubhist Will do, Mary.  Thanks for reading

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1:21 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Wilentz:  It is a real privilege to write magazine articles because you get to work on a sentence-by-sentence level with editors. #oah2014

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1:21 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Wilentz:  To write for the public you need to learn to write on time and write within a word limit. #oah2014

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1:19 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Jill Lepore:  Writing a great magazine article is like giving a great lecture that people are “stirred by.” #oah2014

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1:19 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Live Tweeting OAH Plenary Session: Historians and Their Publics: Chair: Alan Kraut (American University)Paneli… http://bit.ly/1iCqduF 

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1:17 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Lepore:  Discussing the importance of “news pegs” when writing magazine articles.  Also have 5 weeks to write it.  #oah2014

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1:16 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Crew: Museums are less about making a compelling argument than it is about helping people wrestle with ideas on their own.  #oah2014

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1:14 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Crew:  To reach the public you must be willing to collaborate with the public, not crush them with your intellectual prowess. #oah2014

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1:13 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Crew:  To reach the public you must forget about what you learned in grad school where you must be smartest person in room. #oah2014

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1:12 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Lynch:  Historical argument can be presented in all kinds of forms–the screen, the museum, etc… #oah2014

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1:11 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Lepore:  There are also very, very bad arguments based on the past that try to pass as historical reasoning. #oah2014

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1:10 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Lepore:  There is nothing more satisfying than a well-constructed historical argument. #oah2014

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1:10 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Lepore:  Hard intellectual work to bring a well-reasoned historical argument to the public.  #oah2014

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1:09 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Wilentz:  Sees punditry as an extension of his work as a scholar.  Does not try to be presentist or dogmatic. @oah2014

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1:08 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Alan Kraut presiding.  Asks if historians “put on a different hat” when doing punditry.  How does this work? #oah2014

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1:05 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Lynch worked w/ Ken Burns on the Jazz series. http://www.pbs.org/jazz/  Did documentary on Shirley Chisholm #oah2014   http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0388835/ …

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1:02 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Let me clarify.  I think Crew and Lynch are more sensitive to a larger public than Lepore and Wilentz. #oah2014

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1:01 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Filmmaker Shola Lynch is now talking about how she fell in love with history.  http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0528454/   #oah2014

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1:00 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Will anyone acknowledge the class dimensions of this entire session?  I doubt it.  #OAH2104

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12:59 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Who is Sean Wilentz?  Who is Jill Lepore? Who are the “publics” they are reaching”  I think it is a very narrow one.  #oah2014

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12:58 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Wilentz says he wants to “stir-it-up” in his writing.  Cites Bob Marley.  #oah2014

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12:58 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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How do historians inform public who don’t read New Yorker, New Republic? How do I get my Dad to be a better historical thinker. #oah2014

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12:57 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Wilentz describes old magazines like New Republic as “gladiatorial.”  Extolls these kinds of mags as way to reach the public. #oah2014

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12:56 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Wilentz is up.  Reaffirms Lepore emphasis on teaching, but cannot claim to have stayed away from punditry.  #oah2014

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12:55 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Would love to hear what Lepore thinks of Kristof piece.  Admits that academic historians have “retreated” into the ivory tower. #oah2014

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12:54 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Lepore: Not necessary that ALL historians write in The New Yorker   Many ways to reach public.  This is an urgent matter. #oah2014

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12:53 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Lepore:  Extolls “the essay” as a way in which historians reach the public.  (Different from an academic journal article).  #oah2014

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12:52 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Lepore: So many historians think that to do public history is to somehow engage in politics.  More to this than just punditry #oah2014

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12:51 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Lepore sees her writing as extension of her teaching. Developing students in skills of historcial thinking. #oah2014

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12:49 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Jill Lepore is on.  Says we make a mistake when we don’t think of our teaching as public work.  #oah2014

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12:48 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Crew:  Job of public historian is to make “your story” available to the public and all public stories available to the nation.  #oah2014

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12:46 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Crew:  Public history and museums should provide a voice or platform for those excluded from traditional narratives. #oah2014

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12:45 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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Spencer Crew of George Mason is up first. http://provost.gmu.edu/robinson/about/spencer-crew/ …  Public historian  #oah2014

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12:44 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details Flag media

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#oah2014  Live tweeting plenary session “Historians and Their Publics”  Kristof op-ed framing the discussion so far.  http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/16/opinion/sunday/kristof-professors-we-need-you.html?_r=0 …

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12:37 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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@JohnFea1 is tweeting the plenary session I’m attending so I’m just gonna shut up now. #oah2014

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12:37 PM – 11 Apr 2014 · Details

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The Way of Improvement Leads Home: Live Tweeting OAH Plenary Session: Historians and … http://www.philipvickersfithian.com/2014/04/live-tweeting-oah-plenary-session.html?spref=tw …

3 thoughts on “Tweets from OAH Plenary: Historians and Their Publics”

tony jheeta

July 10, 2014 at 2:15 am

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Tom Van Dyke

April 12, 2014 at 9:37 pm

John Fea ‏@JohnFea1 2h

Who is Sean Wilentz? Who is Jill Lepore? Who are the “publics” they are reaching” I think it is a very narrow one.

Running the ideological gamut from A to B.

Allen Guelzo will be giving plenary talk at Fall meeting of CFH in which he will challenge the entire idea of “public history.”

Heh heh. Now yer talkin'!

http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2009/06/is-there-american-mind.html

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Jimmy Dick

April 12, 2014 at 1:45 pm

I think Jill Lepore has some right to be offended. She explained how history has been mangled by many over time to support their ideologies. That didn't sit well with some. I read Gordon Wood's response and while I like and respect him immensely, I think he was wrong.

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